原则上要减一星,因为有更好的作品出来了://www.douban.com/game/36235484/
《光荣》内容本来更丰富,包含了平民肖,他的爱情经历,还有弗雷德里克·道格拉斯号非裔召抗战的宏伟集会的场景,那是我见过的还原的最准确的道格拉斯,也是我在电影里听过的最好的演讲。
原本甚至还有少年肖的镜头,展现了他从小深受废奴主义熏陶,还有他与母亲的亲密情感,继承了母亲的高尚精神。你能想象肖在出征前向新婚妻子道别的情形吗?
十分遗憾,这些全被剪掉了,理由是这会分散叙事,可能是想把注意力转移,从肖的传记片变成歌颂团队和黑人的牺牲。
换句话说,《光荣》本来可能是充满厚重历史感的电影,却最终被剪成了我们今天看到的这种有点小家子气的样子。在黑夜中号召抗战的道格拉斯的雄辩的声音成了只有两句台词的过场,而观众根本不会通过电影知道肖在出征前刚刚结婚。
以上是被阉割的事实,下面谈谈被歪曲的事实:
喜欢拿历史开涮的无知之徒只听说过国内三无网文捏造的谢尔曼烧亚特兰大,却不知道联邦军有位蒙哥马利上校真的烧毁过一个小镇。看过这篇文章,相信读者会同意蒙哥马利上校的一把火烧的好极——因为对穷凶极恶的奴隶制势力,必须毫不留情的进行制裁。
很多人第一次看到蒙哥马利上校,大概是在电影《光荣》里。
蒙哥马利刚一出场并没有什么特别之处,但后来我们随着肖的视角发现蒙哥马利这人有问题。蒙哥马利上校的台词有一句是这样,他对肖说:“这群黑人就像是小孩,就是一群猴子,你只是需要看住他们。”同时扮演蒙哥马利的演员配以乖张的肢体动作,以及对黑人轻蔑的眼神。
然而在真实的历史中,这位蒙哥马利是个比主角肖拥有更高尚的品质的废奴主义者,为废除奴隶制,为解救奴隶,为黑人权益奋斗一生,不惜牺牲自己生命,这样的人会有电影里的这些言行?
编剧将《光荣》里出场的包括蒙哥马利在内的所有联邦军将领刻画成冷血无情,贪得无厌,腐败无能之士,很明显是为了凸显主角肖上校的英伟,然而这种编剧手法是拙劣的,毫无必要的。
电影的第一个高潮是蒙哥马利命令肖上校烧毁一个不设防的小镇,肖上校正义凛然的回绝。
蒙哥马利跟谢尔曼一样,认为要尽早结束战争,必须威慑邪恶帝国的嚣张气焰。但跟保守派的谢尔曼不一样,蒙哥马利的目标不是军事设施,而是一座小镇。不只是目标不同,蒙哥马利更深层次的原因也不同。
蒙哥马利很早就在堪萨斯与奴隶主武装斗争过,他的战友便是著名约翰·布朗。蒙哥马利早在战争全面爆发之前就见识过奴隶制势力如何烧杀抢掠,战争爆发后蒙哥马利又有了对付游击队的经验——那些恶棍专门烧毁房屋和农田,掠夺财物,以强奸女性,虐杀儿童为乐,不活动时便隐匿在奴隶制支持者的社区。蒙哥马利怀着对奴隶制势力的无限仇恨,才有了后来烧毁叛军小镇的这次行动。这个行动源于对十恶不赦的奴隶制势力和他们所犯下的罪行的复仇渴望,而这样的复仇是正当和正义的。
还有一个事,电影同样没有演出来——就在这个时候,蒙哥马利上校还与著名的哈莉特·塔布曼联合行动解放了八百奴隶,这是大多数联邦将领都没有过的伟大行动,肖本人也没有。
蒙哥马利被编剧写成了正义之师中的反派,化着反派才有的黑眼线容妆,这就是真实历史和好莱坞电影的区别。就像我在之前一篇文章中说过的,了解真正的历史应通过广泛阅读第一手材料和优秀的历史作家的作品。
蒙哥马利是一位真诚、狂热的废奴主义者,最积极的奴隶保护者,真正的废奴主义斗士。
为什么有这些缺点还值得五星?纯粹是因为其他作品的衬托。
“…But this time, we must make a whole country for all are live here so that they all can speak, before the war began, many of my regiment have never seen any negro…we fight for men and women which poetry has not yet written, but we should presently be as enviable as renowned as any.” This letter was shown at the beginning of the film that Shaw wrote to his mother. The American Civil War is the most important event that affects the development of the United States. On the surface, the American Civil War looks like individuals fight for abolishing slavery and support Lincoln's election. Then, several states in south start proclaiming independence; and the states in the north started a fight for the union. However, looking carefully, individuals might realize that during the election in 1860, Lincoln only got 40% of the votes across the country. Besides Vermont, in most of the states in the north, Lincoln only got 50% to 60% support. Therefore, that is mean if he wants to succeed in the election, he needs to get support from the whole country, and this circumstance leads to a question: is that true that the people who lived in the north really hate the slavery? People can see characters' reaction and movement from the film that claims that they really do not care about if the slavery is abolished or not. This film was showing around 28 years ago; and at that time, people may never think about that after 28 years later, there will have a black president. Moreover, the sound effects and the background music are significant elements that affect audience and historians’ thoughts and feeling. Besides that, these aspects are very important for people to get involve and understand the history. In the ancient world, soldiers fight for glory because they have faith and belief in their mind. Therefore, this film called Glory might have the same meaning. The American Civil War needs a great reason that encourages soldiers to fight for, and the liberate slavery become the most crucial reason that can encourage soldiers to keep up high morale. Furthermore, the film is an autobiography, and most of the autobiography is using the first person point of view. Hence, the scenes that Shaw read the letters that he wrote to his mother is a method to show the first person perspective to the audience. Also, the voiceover helps individuals to get to know the historical event better. Because the movie is also a story of the Massachusetts 54th Volunteer Infantry, so the other two main protagonists Trip and John play the important parts.
According to the Constitution of the United States1, they indicate that the Negro has right to join the election, but their vote only counted as third-fifth. As the matter of fact, this rule is disobeyed the constitutional spirit. Perhaps, individuals will think that this rule is made by the southern citizen; however, the southern citizen wants the black people to have the right to vote, and because at that time, black people take a big portion of the population in the south. Hence, their votes become more important. This is true that the causes of American Civil War include slavery, but the basic problem is economy. The diversity of economy between south and north become the origin of the civil war. Besides that, the British play a big part in this situation, and they offered help for the south; and all of these circumstances associated with the economy problem.
Robert Shaw who is a narrative's protagonist was "the son of wealthy Boston abolitionists" and he is "an educated, idealistic young man"2 sometimes he makes people he is relying on his parents too much because he always wrote letters to them and tell them almost everything about himself. The film starts on the battlefield, and it tells the audience the concept and the situation of the story directly.
When he back to home, Shaw "Shaw meets abolitionist Frederick Douglass (Raymond St. Jacques) and Massachusetts Governor John Andrew (Alan North), who offers Shaw the command of a regiment of Negro soldiers, the Massachusetts 54th."3
Shaw started to organize the Massachusetts 54th Volunteer Infantry, and Thomas became the first volunteer. Moreover, the film also stressed and emphasized the change, situation, and the growth of Thomas; for instance, what's his inner change. Besides that, the same portrayal and description of the inner heart appear in other character's circumstances. As the matter of fact, the most impressive scenes in the film are their way of fighting. At that time, the southern soldiers are more experienced than the northern soldier, and perhaps the reason is that the southern people just been through the Mexican-American War, and they have some excellent commander left from that war. Furthermore, they have the better weapons that are provided by British. However, the northern soldier looks more inexperienced and younger. During the first battle in this film, these soldiers are using the old-fashioned way to against the enemy.4 they are tidy and keep rank, and move forward till fighting at close quarters. Also, this way of the fight has been continued until the end of the movie. As the matter of fact, the soldiers did not have the machine gun, and they only have the rifle; therefore, they have one more complicated step is to reload the gun; and the most excellent soldier can shoot three times in a minute. Thus, that is mean their way of battle can cause the huge casualty rate. After the last battle in the film, "Shaw is tossed into a mass grave with his men, including Trip."5 Only at this moment, it showed the equal between black people and white people because even though they have different colors, they have the same aim and fight for same thing. Furthermore, "A postscript adds that the 54th "lost over half its number" in the attack, and that President Lincoln credited the 180,000 "men of color" who fought for the Union "with helping to turn the tide of the war"6 This evidence state that what they did is worthy and consequential
James Horner makes the sound effect in this film, and the music in the film is grand, magnificent and strikes a deep chord. The sound effect is really important for the film. The theme of the film is dignity and glory; therefore, James Horner used a lot of orchestral music in order to emphasize the background of this period of time. There are several scenes that are very impressive. The first one is when they used canning to punish Denzel Washington, and after he took off this shirt, the old scars are on his back, and all these scars represent the humiliation. He looked at Shaw and finally shed one tear.7 at this part, the director using the close-up shot; therefore, the audience can see the progressive transformation of his face and emotion. Moreover, the second impressive scene is when Shaw volunteered for his regiment, and he said: "There is more than rest and fight, sir, there is a character, there is the strength of heart.”8 Also, at this moment, the director used the same method as the first one, and the close-up shot showed the emotion of Shaw and his strength. Furthermore, the third impressive scene is before Shaw went to the battle, and he told to the journalist: " If I should fall, remember what you see here.”9 Then, he frees his horse. The most time in this movie, Shaw was riding on his horse in order to highlight his noble and different. However, before the last battle in the film, he releases his horse because he finally stands at the same position with his regiment. Shaw and his regiment became the pioneer of throw off the shackles and the forerunner of fighting for freedom. Moreover, the film is more like the growth of Shaw because during the 122 minutes, the Director showed the changes of his thoughts and behaviors, and same as Thomas.
A large number of historians "interested in film reach a large enough mass to begin to create the meetings, essays, journals, and books that indicate a topic is on the scholarly map."10
Films become a new method of learning history. People usually study history from books, articles, literature, documents, etc. films are able to help historians and students understand the history more. Moreover, films have visual effect and sound effect. Therefore, sometimes individuals might not understand the word in the book or literature, but they can understand from the frames.
To sum up, film studies as a new way of learning history help students and historians understand the more circumstances and situations. Also, from the visual and sound effects, individuals can get to know the historical events from the first-person point of view. Besides that, Glory is a really successful film; and there are several impressive scenes that help people get to know the personalities of protagonists.
“1862年7月国会立法建立黑人军团,黑人从军陆续开始,但是要到次年初废奴宣言发布才正式有大量黑人加入联邦军队作战。整个南北战争期间,在联邦军队服役的黑人军团大约有 179,000名黑人,占联邦陆军的10%。另有19,000人在海军服役。内战期间有近40,000 名黑人士兵死亡,其中战死者约四分之一,大多数死于受伤感染或瘟疫疾病。”
其中最著名的就是罗伯特·古尔德·萧上校受命领导黑人组成的麻塞诸塞州第54自愿步兵团。
罗伯特于1863年4月17日接任上校。原本大家都认为这是出于政治宣传而成立的作秀部队,但是萧却坚持要为黑人赢回尊严,严格训练,主动请战。第一战是1863年7月16日南卡罗来纳詹姆斯岛战役,获胜,死伤54人。两天后,7月18日罗伯特又主动请缨作为进攻Fort Wagne先头部队,最终和54团的大部分士兵战死。
电影对主角罗伯特塑造比较失败,仿佛他是天生的废奴主义白人军官。 饰演黑人志愿兵的丹泽尔·华盛顿表演比较出彩,因此获得奥斯卡最佳男配。摩根·弗里曼饰演一个老成持重的黑人军士长,但感觉他在所有影片里的形象都差不多。
但是影片对剧情节奏把握恰到好处,不急不慢,一步步带观众走进南北战争时代,一点一滴感受黑人的不易,对19世纪滑膛枪战争细节的展现让人心惊胆战,今天人看来那种作战方式无异于列队送死。 特别值得一提的是配乐,和主题配合得完美无缺。
关于自由与荣耀的故事,对于黑人,自由是投身战场的目标;荣耀则贯穿于实现该目标的过程。对于萧上校,自由是帮助黑人恢复正义;荣耀则是为此神圣而庄严的使命献出生命。故事的承载并不算大,仅仅是黑人建军到被允许上战场并且通过英勇战斗获得赞誉与荣耀,并未将南北战争进行到底,但它的重要意义在于,回答了黑人们为谁而战的重要问题。题外的话,百年前的战争,依然保持着冷兵器时代的对阵与冲锋方式,根本不懂得匍匐前进与卧倒,傻得可歌可泣可叹!
爱德华·兹威克作品,讲述南北战争时期一支黑人部队的故事。虽为明显的美国主旋律,但几乎全片都在刻画人物,把黑人士兵与白人军官的由相抗都互解的过程讲述得热血又感人,最后的一场大战就是兹威克的拿手好戏了。
我一直不明白这种站桩当靶子摆阵对射战斗。现在能明白点。就跟牛仔对射一样,别人是有honor的。不偷袭,不玩陷阱,指挥官站在前面冲。说实话,真都这么打仗,也太天真了,你看看三国,全是玩阴的啊,全tm是火攻水淹加夜袭反夜袭啊。我们这种没节操的战斗模式从什么时候开始的,刘邦?
一个有头脑的人,是能够驱除一切邪恶目光的人。能听到人们心中的呼唤,心中的爱,能跨越一切障碍。
在Mr. Hinojosa 的课上解决的电影。总是能在战争里看见闪闪的精神。你们到底 为了什么奋斗,为了什么流血牺牲,为了什么可以不回头的义无反顾的向前。配乐赞。
描述内战的作品很多,黑奴是战争诱发的潜在因素,本片着重于黑人军队,他们逃出农庄,他们毅然从军,他们为权益呐喊,他们渴望冲锋陷阵,证明自己,展示自己的力量,死有何惧,苟活才是耻辱。高举尊严与自由的大旗,昂首向前,54军团,让光荣永世传扬!
IMDB的高分电影 有关美国人的英雄记忆 所有一切操练准备 在最终都化成为荆轲赴死 充满了理想主义的壮烈
看DVD的时候好几部里面的,当是觉得其他都很一般,只是被感动了,现在还是觉着一般,不过能把我感动了加一星。
一部影片,让我们见证了一个人、一支部队、一个国家以及民主的成长过程
上影节day3相较于昨天俄国人的战役还是略逊一筹,除了动作设计和拍摄手段的落后,南北战争的整体格局与战斗方式本就在硬件上少了几分味道,战前拍手歌的戏特棒,主角太尬了1
現在很難拍這種正氣的片子了。
这什么二逼片。前面一直在各种煽情,海滩上非常有气势的进军,然后被炸得七零八落,从早上趴到晚上,苦逼啊。
#第二十三届上海国际电影节#只有在电影院才能慢慢欣赏这部片子的精彩。群像刻画非常精彩,最爱的是大战前的祷告戏,音乐与剧情的完美融合,同时也体现出黑人士兵独一无二的乐观与互助的精神。丹泽尔华盛顿的演出完全没有表演痕迹,把自己与角色融入了一体。
愚者成功+伙伴之情+金羊毛,不谙政治、不懂世故的出水之鱼们,在相处时化解冲突、变得完整,最终追寻共同使命的故事。本片的亮点是,54军的每一个人都是出水之鱼。上校Robert起初不懂练兵和政治(因为54军顺理成章地可以上战场),不懂如何了解黑人士兵;Forbes总是混淆私情与公务;黑人士兵不知北方白人的歧视;Trip——黑人士兵中的出水之鱼——有现实感而无使命感。最后他们都完善了自身,形成了一只凝聚的队伍。本片的不足是,54军以外的每个人都过于脸谱化。54军因使命而斗志高昂,其他黑人军团却满足于烧杀抢掠;Robert, Forbes信奉黑人解放,其他白人(无论官阶大小)却视黑人为自由的奴隶。(更多内容见长评)
那些被告知的,错误的信息。并非一切努力都将有结果。死伤过半,也没能攻下来。坚持坚持坚持坚持坚持放弃。给自己定下了五个坚持。作为人生标准。
完美!在战争高潮出现之前就完成了所有的叙事,大部分时间都是文戏却能保持张力十足、一个人,一个团,一场悲壮的战役,仅仅1800万的预算拍出了那个时代战争片的恢宏气势,每个角色都可爱丰满,两个小时的节奏极好,可谓是经典中的经典了。
爱德华兹维克的电影镜头优美,音乐出色,叙事沉稳,只要配以好的故事质量绝对不会差。这部其早期的电影绝对符合以上的条件还有惊喜,在如油彩画的摄影下,耳边一直飘荡这优美的旋律,而演员们出色的表演十分的具有感染力。算是好莱坞艺术与商业结合的一部典范之作了。
终于看全了,也终于知道那种自杀式的冲锋陷阵不是傻逼行为,而是为了自由与光荣的一种殉道方式!看着喜欢的演员一个个死去,滋味不好受啊~ 那时候的他们还都不是大牌呢!4
起码争取一下能要到军装和皮鞋,我们抗日时候哪有这些?可我们的战争片却把感人的历史拍得让人生厌。
丹泽尔·华盛顿真是帅,尊重与歧视。很好的美国主旋律