爱情故事2009

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主演:江若琳,文咏珊,何浚尉,徐正溪,

类型:电影地区:香港语言:粤语年份:2009

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 1 ) 笔记

秃鹰,低价购买房产,在别人的不幸上牟利。

盈利动机。

里根时期,生产力大幅提升但是工人工资没涨,工人阶层还被鼓励借贷(家庭借贷几乎与GDP相等)、个人破产激增、犯罪率上升等,最富裕的美国人税率降低了一半。

通用公司GM破产

日本和德国:努力保证即便是保守党当选,也不会破坏他们的中产阶层。

布什:资本主义让人自由选择,公正和尊严

资本主义战胜了自由:受贿法官提高了定罪率(不公正定罪),将稍有过失的儿童送入青少年盈利机构(儿童服务中心),并且关押时间比被判的时间延长。

萨利机长收入降了四成,退休金被终止。飞行员的收入微薄,欠债。航空公司逐年降低飞行员工资,后者不得不靠打临工生活——薪水低、工作强度大,易出事故。

Dead Peasants insurance:银行为员工健康而秘密投保,保险受益人是银行——道德问题:从员工死亡得益。美国银行、梅林,沃尔玛…这些蓝筹股都涉嫌这种类型的投保。去世的员工越年轻公司获赔越多,因为他们的预期寿命更长,且女性的预期寿命比男性更长——年轻女性。而家人则承担全额医疗和丧礼费用。

资本主义与共同利益、同情心、宗教信仰相悖。

美国不再是Democracy而是Plutonomy(1%的富人比剩余95%的人有钱)富人成了国家新的管理层,唯一形成威胁的就是穷人的投票权,但是穷人幻想有朝一日成为富人(享受扩大贫富差距的利益)因此容忍这一点——富人拒绝共享财富。背离了宪法的初衷。

工作场所的公平,所有工人都是管理层(投票)。CEO和普通工人获得的利润一样,大大提高了生产率。

萨尔克医生,将疫苗专利权奉献给公众;如今最好的人才在金融业(需要20年偿还学生贷款)

Alan Greenspan

次贷

欠贷者在被赶出家门前,如果清理得干净,房主会收到一千美元。而对于位高权重者,可以减免他们的利息,免除费用,免除书面文件(FOA:friends of Angelo),其中许多人管理着国家的金融。

08年经济危机,恰好在大选前2个月(时机可疑)。

Robert Rubin美国前财长,在仁时修改法案允许商业银行进入如投资银行业和外国保险的新领域,他卸任后在花旗银行拿高薪就职。

Larry Summers 美国前财长,通过做顾问和发表演讲赚钱,现身一次十万;为对冲基金做顾问赚了520万。

Tim Geithner(《恐慌:2008金融危机背后不为人知的故事》被采访)领导了不少摧毁经济的机构。

布什政府相当于“高盛政府”,充斥了许多高盛前员工(包括Hank Paulson),正如克林顿政府。用纳税人的钱拯救高盛及其他金融机构。利用恐惧(大萧条的威胁),达到目的。第一次议案投票结果是不通过,但是民主党人与共和党人达成协议,致使国会改变。(“情报战”)

奥巴马政府,高盛称为奥巴马第一私人赞助者(一百万)。他的竞争者越说奥巴马是社会主义,后者民调越领先。

弗林特静坐(通用公司),罗斯福总统第二权利法案未通过(离世)。

导演:民主应当取代资本主义。

 2 ) 80後的我們,見證了一個時代,全世界變得只剩窮和富的時代

最近網上流行一句話說,少時不努力,老大搞IT。

南方朔說,無論任何社會,中産階級都是最主要的穩定力量,他們由于多半是有點技術的上班及上工族,而且經濟條件尚可,他們的價值觀遂比較個人傾向,他們不會去煩人,也不希望被政府煩。他們權利義務分明,多半都希望就這樣平安幸福的終其一生。但這種卑微的願望,現在卻已變得愈來愈遙遠。

Moore說,美國的中產階級消失了,靠在企業做工買的起房,3年換新車的生活已經不存在了。

 

於此我恍然大悟:按美國50年前中產的標準和南方朔中產的定義,買的起房,買的起車,有點技術又個人化並希望安於此境,如今的中國大陸中產階級好像根本就不存在,南方朔說的這種人在中國跟現在美國的這種人同樣,成了Peasant,翻譯為民工我想更加確切,這就不難解釋少壯不努力,老大搞IT了,在中國除非你成為公僕OR紅頂,如同在美國你西裝革履在華爾街上班,不然你就是個Peasant。他們有American Dreanm,我們還有Chinese Dream呢,呵呵,哈哈,哈哈哈哈。

 

美國被商人掌控了,中國則被公僕和紅頂商人掌控。如此看來,中國的中產者產生於那個楊百萬的時代,終結於和世界接軌之後,前後短短10多幾年。世界也差不多,80年代出生的我們,見證了一個時代,中國的,世界的,我是指,從80年開始,美國變成了華爾街的賺錢工具,中國變成了公僕們日積月累不斷鼠竊的糧倉,蘇俄則被那些心狠手辣,眼疾手快的紅色寡頭買下來了,這個世界正在如此同步的轉化為富人和窮人的世界,讓人不經懷疑,是否冥冥中自有天命。

 

American dream就像美國人的一場戀愛,美國人失戀了,然後中國人開始追求她。中國人多久會嘗到失戀的苦果呢?

 

或許Moore給我們了一個結論,democracy。誰知道呢?

 3 ) 缺了阴谋论,老麦就玩不转了

这片子跟华氏911一比,差了不止3条街。缺了阴谋论,看上去就很乏味,以至于后半段简直令人昏昏欲睡。对资本主义的血泪控诉,就这点桥段,都不好意思写进我国的政治教材啊(话说按今天的眼光看,80年代的中学政治教科书很像另类科幻,什么牛奶倒大海,什么证交所多过米店,竟然都一一应验了)。说实话,我真的很想推荐老麦看一看我国80年代的中学政治教科书,虽然分析我国的事情不怎么靠谱,但是找资本主义的茬,那还是相当地一针见血啊。

其实华尔街,多好的阴谋论题材啊,但看到老麦对函数的导数满头黑线,就知道这不是他可以驾驭的了(不如请宋鸿兵来当顾问)?于是剩下的就只有感情宣泄了;美国本来是很好的,都是布什/鲍尔森良心让狗吃了,只要信天主信民主(党)以及巴马,于是乎就万事大吉了。红脖子智商固然低,但也没有这么好忽悠的吧。而且话说巴马上台已经两年了,那下次再怎么拍呢?看情形是要搞”党内出了佩洛西这样的走资派“之类的桥段了。

既然对问题没有深入的分析,老麦开出的药方也是可笑的。”罗斯福多活几年就好了“,算是解决方案?要知道罗斯福的social security现在都快破产了唉。人人有工作,人人有房子住,人人有医疗,哪个不需要花钱的啊?当然罗斯福有可能办得到,您老自己在开头就说了,那是因为欧洲日本都被还原成2D了嘛。

说老实话,搞福利国家北欧可以,日本可以,但是美国不可以,因为美国是老大,天塌下来也只能硬顶着,养懒人的下场就是老大地位不保,这个是一点办法都没有的事情。

喂喂,最后摇滚版的ED是虾米意思啊?欺负美宣部的同志们没有听过国际歌是吧?伟大导师教导我们,革命不是请客吃饭,自发的,盲目的,没有xx党领导的,那个啥啥啥,终归是要失败的。哼着小曲就想改天换日,那是门也没有的。现如今只有我国纪念的51劳动节和38妇女节,想当初都是芝加哥工人的滚滚人头啊。

 4 ) 耸人听闻的冷静

我不能完全同意其中的观点,但是我却完全彻底的喜欢这样的说话方式。
不过我也有些悲哀,因为在中国承认自己是一个彻底的信仰共产主义的共产党人(不是说你一定中国共产党员,而是说你完全相信并且追随《共产党宣言》的人),会被人觉得可笑。这是一层悲哀。
另外还有一层悲哀。那些所谓的资本主义的追随者,也无法真正的解决资本主义的问题。
最终的悲哀是在于,当你真正的去思考人类社会未来的美好前景的时候,你会发现你是孤单的。

 5 ) Carpe Diem

The other day I was watching Real Time. As usual, Bill and his panel - Arianna Huffington and Andrew Sorkin in this case - talked about how the Corporate America, especially those financial elites, rip off the hard-working middle class people and get away with it with tons of taxpayers' money in their pockets. As the heat mounted, it is, of course, inevitable to raise doubts about and criticize the existing system. Then, all of sudden, I was shocked, and partly amused, by how these spouts resemble what we have been preached throughout our education. Greed, exploitation, and ultimately the populist revolt. This type of rhetoric sounds no strange to us; for this is what we are expected, if not ordered, to believe in. And yet, to the American people, particularly the younger generation, it sounds just as exotic and remote as a fashionable historic curiosity.

There are more of these moments to find in Michael Moore's documentary, Capitalism: A Love Story. Jimmy Carter's presidential statement that "we are at a turning point in our history" in that "human identity is no longer defined by what one does, but by what one owns" called for the very same thing the Eight Honors and Eight Disgraces is intended to. The only difference here is that one has perished amid the laissez faire spree triggered by the president's successor, while another is ongoing in an emerging superpower experiencing an astounding economic growth and faced with increasingly polarized distribution.

Carter also rightly decried that "too many of us now tend to worship self-indulgence and consumption". Ironically enough, this is exactly where Ronald Reagan thrived. By cutting taxes by a enormous margin, by packing those ideas that Carter hated and warned against into the doctrine of capitalism and the almighty power of the free market, the Republican president created a robust consumption-driven economy and garnered tremendous popularity. Historically, this was also a significant period of what Walter R. Mead, an advisor to Henry Kissinger, described as the breakdown of the blue model. Union power declined, competition intensified - just as Michael Moore lamented in the film, it was not an easy time for everybody. However, the cosmetic served well. With new policies well implemented, economic index responded with great numbers. So did the stock market, so did the financial sector; and so people say of the economy and the president's legacy. Indeed, it was the best of times, it was the worst of times.

But this does not solve the moral problems incurred by the ever greater gap between the wealthy and the poor. In an electoral democracy, for a policy, or more precisely -- an ideology to become legitimate it has to promote the core ideas that have been deeply rooted in this nation ever since its foundation - well known as the "American dream" - which, in its simplest form, requires two most basic elements: freedom and equal opportunities. Of course, it is no difficulty to claim freedom in a capitalism for it is already a "free market", but the concept of "equal opportunities" is not an easy case. How could everyone be equal in a system in which more capital could be gained out of capital itself? How is deregulation supposed to promote equality when the ones with more wealth is granted with access to more influence, and hence even more wealth? This is where the economists, along with their terrifying-sounding jargons, weighed in. Drawing on one after another premises that are too good - and too simple - to be true, they derived elegant models functioning perfectly in equilibriums yet inherently inconsistent with reality. But politicians, as they always do, conveniently neglected those flaws in nature and with the help of speechwriters blended the pretty conclusions into their exciting orations. The "invisible hand", what a tempting yet handy idea - it's like finding the key to the ultimate mystery of the universe - sparing us the tedious thoughts of how our society and economy really work, develop, and interact with fast changing circumstances. Capitalism and the free market, as the Cold War ended in the collapse of the Soviet Union, soon earned their unchallengeable status in the realm of economic expertise. This, I firmly believe, is the ugly but real side of the truth: people blindly come to believe in those slogan-like theories not because of prudence, but because of laziness; for it is the one of the most common human nature of us to see what we want to see.

But, how about the immoral and unchristlike worship of "self-indulgence and consumption"? It indeed sounds like a righteous warning, doesn't it? Let me put this in relatively vague words for the sake of a bit wit here. When people see and hear of the media promotions of smoking elaborately plotted and sponsored by big evil tobacco companies, as depicted in Hollywood products, in either an upbraiding or a nostalgic way, they easily buy it, assuming that's what surely is bound to happen, as though the condescending liberal media elites just reclaimed their integrity out of blue. Nonetheless, contradictory to the common ground that government and politicians are evil, hypocritical, or, at best, incompetent, when it comes to massive political propaganda people easily get dismissive, disdainfully calling them conspiracies. Anyway, were those speculations to have been true, you have got to give applause to the gentlemen behind the curtain, for they can somehow manage to manipulate people to do and believe in things that are obviously against their own interests. It is truly a tour de force, works like magic.

Back to the film, and the ideology talk partly thanks to its title. It is amazing how frequently and strongly Michael Moore stress the term "socialism". And not in a Cold-War-minded way, but in a progressive and advocating way. So advocating that it proclaims socialism is the unfulfilled dream of FDR. So, how does the landscape really looks like in the US? Is it as biased as either side insists? Trying to answer that question, another popular liberal president, Jed Bartlet, would probably say, "Give me numbers." Fair enough. Let's take a look at them:

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This poll was conducted earlier this year. It shows that, significantly, though 58% of Americans still maintain a negative image of socialism, among Democrats and leaner a majority of people share a positive one, and that majority grows even bigger when it comes to liberals, topping the "supermajority" threshold at 61%.

Also underlined in the film is Barack Obama's ascendency in polls during the '08 presidential election, which Michael Moore arbitrarily attributed to the underlying socialism in his rhetoric and agenda. It is easy to commit the mistake of post hoc ergo propter hoc, but the exhilarated crowd was real and hard. Young people, with their compassion and idealism yet to fade, are known to be the main components of the liberal base. This hypothetical electoral map below demonstrates that fact convincingly well:

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These results altogether illustrate a sharp contrast with that across the Pacific, where the pro-capitalism outrage amid the young is burgeoning seemingly as fast as the economic growth. The bottom line is that it is widely acknowledged that China's economy and growth model are in fact ill and flawed, but is capitalism the solution to all our conundrums? I am too often astounded by the extend to which some of our professors and pundits, who are supposed to think and analyze in a much more comprehensive way, appear so naive as to blame many problems on the markets not being open, free, and in essence capitalist enough. The contemporary history of the US has already showed the idealistic promises of capitalism that everyone shares an equal opportunity to work his way into the upper class are nothing but a fantasy; in reality, it is never in its purest form but other derivatives, namely, crony capitalism. Which does little good to the society as a whole but quite the opposite, creating even more inequality in the long run. In an economy that is strong and hence resilient to tentative turbulences so long as the marginal well-being stays positive, it might take decades for a bubble to burst. Nevertheless, in an over populated nation governed by a young regime dealing with various inherent social tensions, it could lead to catastrophe.

So, what does all this imply? Should we just entirely reject the Western philosophies as merely historical blunders? Of course not. To me the very point here is that we are bestowed - in an ironic way - with this dual perspective on the nature of human society, in terms of how social progressivism driven by different values eventually converge at promoting human equality and how dogmatism could be manipulated to impede that momentum and ultimately undermine our integrity. For a nation in the face of a seemingly unstainable economy, for a people shadowed by a wobbling ethical system, this is an utterly important issue.

 6 ) 一两点备忘

奥巴马貌似不是社会主义者,他硬是给共和党敌对阵营逼成了,老是非此即彼选边站,一如冷战时期政府对待卡斯特罗这老地主一样,关于那笔政府救济金的发放,面对政府干预市场是社会主义行为的质疑时,有当值政府官员比喻巧妙:”如果一座房子失火,有孩子深陷呼喊,你在救人之前是否还要考虑自身的绑架嫌疑。”搞得脱口秀主持人当时语塞,现在答案是:“那火是假的,是与银行资本家勾结的执政者干的,就像伊拉克战事一样,政府喜欢因势利导,夸大事实捕风捉影,维护自身与资本利益。
幸亏那钱没像国会议员提议的那样发放给劳苦大众,否则奥巴马就一步到位成共产者了,毕竟事实是资金还是流向了资本,上层建筑要倒塌那就叫革命而非金融政变了。
美国梦的铸造旨在同一世界统一梦想,然而如今的美国早已不是冒险家们那片尚待开发的热土,它被资本意志所顶礼膜拜的贪婪开发殆尽,“富不过三代”,刚做做次贷二元方程就刨出底了。
此时美国人民才发现自己与资本拥有者还是有区别的,而且区别不小,贫富两极到没有中间值,真正资产阶级的世界要大过普罗大众,自己不过是替银行打工的有产者,并不是银行的有产者,前者是被压榨的对象而非格格林斯潘所谓的压榨者,世界不能全是有产者,必定有人要破产,而运用资产谁是银行家的对手,所以打工的有产者变成了街友,街友们一时无法适应自己的社会新身份,说:“到处是闲置丢弃的街道楼房,这等萧条还是美国吗?”于是突然发现自己的先辈们以难民的身份漂洋过海到底不是为了繁衍新型难民的,有1%的难民做的比我好,于是对这1%的好学生难民产生对立情绪,有了对立面就会产生阶级斗争,美国人大梦初醒,发现这世界还有另一种社会结构自己没见过,听说很坏,但先拿来救救难民的急也好。
PS:摩尔总是以已出发身体力行的站在一个普通美国民众的角度拍个人感触,而不是什么公共知识分子或评论员的高度,这是他成功的很大原因。

 短评

利用剪辑灌输自己观点,这一点上,他做的很好

9分钟前
  • 扭腰客
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哪种主义都不是百忧解

13分钟前
  • 皮皮鲁西西
  • 还行

片尾曲是摇滚版《国际歌》,观众起立鼓掌。估计中国人不会喜欢,因为他们爱的并不是美国,而是资本主义;Michael Moore爱的是美国,不是资本主义。

14分钟前
  • 小白小白不要慌
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一直挺喜欢Michael Moore讽刺的调调,这位老喜欢找茬的美国佬,应该觉得批评政府也是爱国的一种表现吧。

19分钟前
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没有在一个国家的理想与现实节节滑坡的惨象前一蹶不振,保持了积极的社会变革基调,仅就这一点便向Michael Moore致以崇高的敬意。不足是对解决问题的方法有所模糊,依然使用了“民主”这个模糊的概念。其中对Co-op的刻画极有启发,可继续展开。

22分钟前
  • 艾小柯
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an insane casino

23分钟前
  • 贾小宁
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1、迈克·摩尔做小题目,比如911,或者医保问题,得心应手,这个题目太大,他自己也不明白或者是装糊涂,着实驾驭不了。2、前两部还好,这一部里摩尔的“社会行动”/个人秀看起来着实地臭傻逼。3、没解决的核心问题在于,为什么富人富穷人穷,以及片中现象如何形成,没有解释,只有仇富和煽动

25分钟前
  • 胤祥
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plutonomy,资本主义能让你无所不能,你想为太阳申请专利吗。。把民主和资本主义对立是有问题的。。。麦克默你敢再激进点么

26分钟前
  • 琧婯
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每次看完迈克摩尔的电影,想到的第一句话总是“中国人民此刻内牛满面”

31分钟前
  • 影熟人
  • 还行

还以为有多谴责,结果也只是批判一下前几任政府,寄希望于奥巴马。我几乎要认为这是奥巴马的政治宣传片了。另:房屋被没收,难道就没有平民过度透支的恶习起作用?我看不见得。Pussy!纪录片带了政治目的,就成了一坨烂货。

36分钟前
  • 光年‖影视歌三栖民工
  • 较差

美国的可怕之处在于总有人能提出反对意见, 在良性循环中找到潜在的危险. 或许 Michael Moore 有点哗众取宠不招人喜欢. 反思国内, 我们的工会我们的权利在哪里?

39分钟前
  • SilentTyler
  • 力荐

这片子不是给平头百姓看的。

44分钟前
  • 小子
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胖子的表情!!

47分钟前
  • 后端开发鸭先知
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不管摩尔政治观点怎么样有无漏洞,当年如此支持奥巴马有没有被打脸,“独立党派”桑德斯现在变民主党是否尴尬等,他确实是个把娱乐和叙述结合得非常好的导演,适当插入各种表情包一样的段落令人怀疑他是否经常在油管看恶搞视频😂,事情讲清楚了,也并不卖惨或过度煽动。当然一部电影肯定是不够的

52分钟前
  • 米粒
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迈克摩尔是美国艾未未,除了他喜欢编造谎言之外,更大的区别还在于他生在了一个值得爱的国家。在我们这个无偿献血的地方,没有爱情故事,只有悲伤和愤怒。

53分钟前
  • 草威
  • 还行

麦胖果然是红色阵营派到西方的奸细,他老拍一些《新闻联播》最爱放的东西——即美国人民都生活在水深火热之中

57分钟前
  • shawnj
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大坏胖子著名搅屎棍Michael.Moore再次袭来!

58分钟前
  • 蚂蚁没问题
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摩尔是我见过当今最有社会洞见的导演,虽然很多地方有心无力,甚至方向偏颇,但仍然具有很大的社会意义,因为摸索是一个过程,试想如果全世界人民都能够清醒的辩证的去思考这个世界的运行,那么人类才会迅速的发展,苦难将会减少,社会合规律性不可违背,但历史任务需要做的就是调动人民的主观能动性…

1小时前
  • iceman
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摩尔的人道主义关怀 - 区分capitalism & democracy. 资本主义是邪恶的, 只有民主是好的. 但是, 没有资本主义做基础的民主究竟是真正的民主吗? 纯粹的民主根底上只能是理想. 太多国家假民主却真贫穷. 效率与公平本身就是极难达成的平衡......

1小时前
  • vanessa
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虽然我是个右派,但麦克摩尔这个大胖子总是能让我变得感性起来。

1小时前
  • Minjie
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